Season 5, Episode 7: Interview with Jillian DuBois The Counter Narrative: Changing the Way We Talk (and think) About Education

Welcome to the Counter Narrative Podcast, a show designed to change the way we talk, and think, about education. By sharing stories of successes and triumphs, we aim to challenge the dominant narrative that often negatively portrays our disenfranchised populations. I’m your host, Charles Williams. An urban educator for more than 15 years, a current school principal in Chicago, an educational consultant, an equity advocate, and the co-host of Inside The Principal’s Office. — Have you heard the news? Inside the Principal’s Office has released a book! A best selling new release on Amazon! This book is perfect for any current or aspiring educational leader. Broken down into 40 weeks, this book is filled with reflections and practical advice from three educational administrators and provides space for reflection to facilitate growth. Join other leaders from around the world who have already ordered theirs to join in on upcoming book studies and workshops. Order your copy on Amazon today! — In this episode, I chat with Jillian DuBois, a 2nd-grade elementary educator in Clearwater, FL who has been in the field of education for over two decades. She is the published author and illustrator of Liv’s Seashells, Road to Awesome:A Journey for Kids, and Look at YOU, Piper Lou!, and is the Optimistic Originator of Imparted Joy, LLC. Jill’s passion is to initiate and infuse joy to those in education by focusing efforts on listening, serving, and growing alongside colleagues and friends. She uses her voice to foster hope for student equity and empathy. Jillian believes each day is a FRESH opportunity to listen, be slow to criticize, and be quick to empathize. Keep dancing and dreaming with JOY. During our conversation, she shares that she is just an ordinary teacher who gets to do extraordinary things with extraordinary people. She began the conversation by sharing a personal story of educating her own child at home when his school was not providing him with the approach he needed to be successful. The experiential learning opportunities she curated for him fostered a different approach to teaching that she has fully embraced and implements within her own classroom. Jill talked about letting go of our own fears when it comes to student autonomy and shares her solution for eliminating boredom from classrooms. Ready to hear an extraordinary conversation between two ordinary educators? Let’s go. Connect with Jillian Twitter: @JillDuBois22 Insta: jilliande FB: jilliandee Web: — I want to thank you for listening to The Counter Narrative Podcast. If you like what you are hearing, please be sure to like, subscribe, and of course share it with friends and family. I’d also love to hear your thoughts about the show so please leave a comment or two as well. I’m not sure what platform you’re using but the show can be found on Anchor, Google Podcasts, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and plenty of other platforms. If the show isn’t on your preferred site, let me know and I’ll be sure to get it up and running. This podcast is also featured on, where you can find educational articles, videos, and interviews with educators from around the globe. Be sure to connect with me and other listeners by following the show on Twitter at @theCNpodcast and joining the show’s Facebook Group. — This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. Support this podcast:
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